Members of the public were asked to comment on job advert pay secrecy on social media, these are their voices. #payslipbansa unites the public and ethical businesses against unfair labour practice.
Public Agrees Secrecy Sucks
Why are job adverts not transparent about pay when inequality thrives in South Africa?
Recruiters and firms, when questioned, make outrageous claims about their virtue, usually arguing that ‘we would never be exploitative!’
But when asked
Who makes decisions about unequal pay?
they are lost for words!
THE PUBLIC IS VOCAL
Hi Leonie, thanks so much for your post on LinkedIn re: recruiters stating salaries.
I attended an interview for a lecturing position this morning. They only wanted to pay R8500 per month! I thanked them for their time and told them that I was looking for a market-related salary (which they have informed me it was).
I’m sure many companies are using the recession as an excuse to pay exploitative salaries. I’ve got a Honours degree in Education from UKZN and I know I’m worth far more than what they were offering. Will just have to keep looking or even go overseas…
This is Vicious not Virtuous
Had this applicant known about the pay before the interview, he could have saved himself time and money by opting out. The recruitment process used was high risk and high cost to job applicants. It also reflects stupid impractical business decision making.
Most positions just state “Undisclosed remuneration” More like come and let’s see how desperate you are.
Cheap Labour = Slavery.
You have a right to know the remuneration package for the job you applied for. In my personal opinion, with all due respect, they obviously deny you basic human rights.
Prof Thidziambi Phendla, PhD
My son went through this last week. He was interviewed at 10am, trained till 6pm, offered a job without disclosing his salary. My husband and I told him to decline the so-called job. How many desperate sons and daughters out there who continue to be abused? Modern day slavery?
Interesting post! I found the whole non-disclosure thing really strange when I came to SA. I hate it when they ask you how much you expect to earn! Surely they place their value on the job within their budget, possibly with a scale depending on experience. It feels like trickery otherwise!
Do you want to know the salary before or at the interview?
Definitely with the job advert. Passion cannot keep a roof over my head and food on my table, so I’m not going to bother applying and interviewing for a position that is not going to compensate me adequately for my skills and expertise. I also take offense at the idea that knowing what the salary is prior to the interview somehow makes me less moral or less virtuous as a person. In the same way that I like to know what my groceries cost before I get to the till, I like to know what my salary will be before the interview so that I can plan and decide accordingly.
Applicants should research the salary range for the job, rate it against their competency profile or score. So even if the salary is stated, it can still be discussed and negotiated. This is part of preparing for the interview. Also compare the salary to what other companies are offering for similar work.
Some people just want the foot in and then can juggle their way out especially in this tight labour market. But people who are headhunted are most likely to ask such questions. Thanks for the info though!!
Salary should be disclosed. Recently a post was advertised and the job spec was for senior skill/competence level (no salary disclosed). Company calls applicants to find out what salary they were looking to receive. Is it a process of elimination or just plain dishonest?
Salary should definitely be in the job spec. I’ve dealt with all sorts of dodgy recruitment agencies.?
Another thing I find incredibly frustrating is this payslip nonsense, they are so quick to demand and even go as far as saying their client won’t continue with the process if you don’t give it to them?
What does my current or previous salary have to do with their clients budget for the role? Surely they’re advertising the job knowing very well what they’re willing to offer?
I always scroll down to see if there is a salary range it tells you a lot about the level of the position.
All should be disclosed!Companies think they can hide their pig fuck offers by shocking you in the interview; usually by asking you first what you expect from them… Downhill from there. For you that is!