Thursday, August 22, 2019
Voices

Members of the public were asked to comment on job advert pay secrecy on social media, these are their voices.   #payslipbansa unites the public and ethical businesses against unfair labour practice.

Public Agrees Secrecy Sucks

Why are job adverts not transparent about pay when inequality thrives in South Africa?

Recruiters and firms, when questioned, make outrageous claims about their virtue, usually arguing that ‘we would never be exploitative!’

But when asked

Who makes decisions about unequal pay?

they are lost for words!

THE PUBLIC IS VOCAL

Hi Leonie, thanks so much for your post on LinkedIn re: recruiters stating salaries.

I attended an interview for a lecturing position this morning. They only wanted to pay R8500 per month! I thanked them for their time and told them that I was looking for a market-related salary (which they have informed me it was).

I’m sure many companies are using the recession as an excuse to pay exploitative salaries. I’ve got a Honours degree in Education from UKZN and I know I’m worth far more than what they were offering. Will just have to keep looking or even go overseas…

This is Vicious not Virtuous

Had this applicant known about the pay before the interview, he could have saved himself time and money by opting out.  The recruitment process used was high risk and high cost to job applicants. It also reflects stupid impractical business decision making.

LinkedIn voices

Ruth Schoeman

Most positions just state “Undisclosed remuneration” More like come and let’s see how desperate you are.

Heleen le Roux

Cheap Labour = Slavery.

You have a right to know the remuneration package for the job you applied for. In my personal opinion, with all due respect, they obviously deny you basic human rights. 

Prof Thidziambi Phendla, PhD

My son went through this last week. He was interviewed at 10am, trained till 6pm, offered a job without disclosing his salary. My husband and I told him to decline the so-called job. How many desperate sons and daughters out there who continue to be abused? Modern day slavery?

Rachel Gregorowski

Interesting post! I found the whole non-disclosure thing really strange when I came to SA. I hate it when they ask you how much you expect to earn! Surely they place their value on the job within their budget, possibly with a scale depending on experience. It feels like trickery otherwise!

Do you want to know the salary before or at the interview?

FaceBook answers:

Claire Collins
Definitely with the job advert. Passion cannot keep a roof over my head and food on my table, so I’m not going to bother applying and interviewing for a position that is not going to compensate me adequately for my skills and expertise. I also take offense at the idea that knowing what the salary is prior to the interview somehow makes me less moral or less virtuous as a person. In the same way that I like to know what my groceries cost before I get to the till, I like to know what my salary will be before the interview so that I can plan and decide accordingly.

Naren Sewpaul
Applicants should research the salary range for the job, rate it against their competency profile or score. So even if the salary is stated, it can still be discussed and negotiated. This is part of preparing for the interview. Also compare the salary to what other companies are offering for similar work.

Pat Shingange
Some people just want the foot in and then can juggle their way out especially in this tight labour market. But people who are headhunted are most likely to ask such questions. Thanks for the info though!!

Charlene Foster 
Salary should be disclosed. Recently a post was advertised and the job spec was for senior skill/competence level (no salary disclosed). Company calls applicants to find out what salary they were looking to receive. Is it a process of elimination or just plain dishonest?

Lorraine Nombuso Maya
Definitely salary with advert …not this market related garbage cos people in two different companies, same qualification, experience can earn differently. So please be upfront!

Lindokuhle Sibiya
Salary should definitely be in the job spec. I’ve dealt with all sorts of dodgy recruitment agencies.?
Another thing I find incredibly frustrating is this payslip nonsense, they are so quick to demand and even go as far as saying their client won’t continue with the process if you don’t give it to them?
What does my current or previous salary have to do with their clients budget for the role? Surely they’re advertising the job knowing very well what they’re willing to offer?

Zenobia Ismail
I always scroll down to see if there is a salary range it tells you a lot about the level of the position.

Uhuru Mmathwathwathwa 
All should be disclosed!
Companies think they can hide their pig fuck offers by shocking you in the interview; usually by asking you first what you expect from them… Downhill from there. For you that is!

Claire Collins
I think it’s a person who’s desperate and will take anything. So someone who’s straight out of varsity/college or returning to work after a long spell of being un/under-employed. What is mis-interpreted as “passion” and “moral fibre” is in fact desperation to be able earn something in order to eek out some sort of existence. 
Employers know this, and as a result they know that they can also take advantage/exploit an individual in this position because they know they’re hard up.

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